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Empotrados [Ebook] ➡ Empotrados By Ian Watson – Natus-physiotherapy.co.uk Ian Watson s brilliant debut novel was one of the most significant publications in British sf in the s Intellectually bracing and grippingly written, it is the story of three experiments in linguistic Ian Watson s brilliant debut novel was one of the most significant publications in British sf in the s Intellectually bracing and grippingly written, it is the story of three experiments in linguistics, and is driven by a searching analysis of the nature of communication Fiercely intelligent, energetic and challenging, it immediately established Watson as a writer of rare power and vision, and is now recognized as a modern classic.


About the Author: Ian Watson

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10 thoughts on “Empotrados

  1. Manny Manny says:

    Not really science fiction,linguistics fiction if you re a linguist who is the least bit interested in SF, this is a must, whether or not it happens to make sense Super intelligent aliens arrive on Earth in a giant spaceship Their mission is find visitors from another dimension The Change Speakers , who visited them long ago and then suddenly disappeared They have some deep mystical significance for the aliens, which is never properly explained Somehow, the search for the Change S Not really science fiction,linguistics fiction if you re a linguist who is the least bit interested in SF, this is a must, whether or not it happens to make sense Super intelligent aliens arrive on Earth in a giant spaceship Their mission is find visitors from another dimension The Change Speakers , who visited them long ago and then suddenly disappeared They have some deep mystical significance for the aliens, which is never properly explained Somehow, the search for the Change Speakers is connected to the way in which we use language If the aliens could learn to speak in the right way, they would be able to move into the other dimension They have been travelling the Galaxy for thousands of years, collecting a vast array of languages and the brains of the various intelligent beings who use those languages It transpires that the thing the aliens most want to find out about here is an obscure ian tribe, who have a drug they take during religious ceremonies When under its influence, they speak in a language which has very unusual formal properties, in terms of allowing unlimited center embedding Look it up if necessary Ian Watson enjoys shocking you, and the ending is par for the course view spoiler The drug is dangerous, and people are normally careful not to overindulge But a young woman, who has become pregnant, starts taking it regularly during her pregnancy The aliens find out about her and are intensely interested They offer untold riches, including practical interstellar travel, if they can have the baby they think it will help them to find the Change Speakers.The child is born It s immediately clear that that the drug has had a horrifying effect its head is bizarrely deformed, with the brain half inside and half outside the skull It s barely alive The anthropologist who is managing contact with the tribe hopes it will survive until it can be handed over to the aliens A helicopter is on its way, and will shortly arrive.The witch doctor picks up the baby and says some phrases in the sacred language Then he suddenly bends his head down and starts eating the child s exposed brain The anthropologist can t stop vomiting I don t blame him I read this book 35 years ago, and I still feel a little queasy hide spoiler


  2. Jenne Jenne says:

    I got this because it sounded like it had interesting ideas about language, but I think I didn t finish it because it seemed really dated.As a feminist, it s kind of hard to read older SF sometimes It was what it was, we stand on the shoulders of giants and all that, but sometimes I just can t.


  3. RG RG says:

    Concept was cool but just found it went nowhere Probably would have worked better as a short story


  4. Chip Chip says:

    The first third of the book is horrible lacking in context and shifting abruptly Not till the aliens show up that the story has any meaning The ending if you call it an ending finishes with a fizzle doesn t make any sense to why things are happening Story has many people on weird drugs the children, theIndians Would have been better as a short story.


  5. Stephen Stephen says:

    I wanted to like this a lotthan I did I picked it up looking for linguistic scifi not based on out of date science I m looking at you Sapir Worf And this fulfilled that, but I need really got into the plot I thought it might conclude well, but it felt too open ended, too unsatisfying perhaps it was trying really hard to be realistic There were lots of plot elements that I never felt the author offered a reasonable explanation for say, flooding Brazil.


  6. Taueret Taueret says:

    I don t think I am smart enough to really understand or appreciate this book I think it probably belongs in the 4 stars category good and Good but my lack of ability to make the leap between the said and the unsaid probably rendered it less comprehensible than it ought to have done.


  7. Mark Harding Mark Harding says:

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers To view it, click here To be honest, I m not sure I get it Great fun What is especially impressive is the way the long passages on living with the tribe of the Xemahoa in Brazil, pull you into their way of thinking so that we Westerners are the ones that feel alien Though not as much as the aliens themselves, who are really weird.In the end, Kayapi brings ambition and corruption to the mythos language of the Xemahoa Does it matter In the end, the language brain boosting drugs of Sole create insanity It s claime To be honest, I m not sure I get it Great fun What is especially impressive is the way the long passages on living with the tribe of the Xemahoa in Brazil, pull you into their way of thinking so that we Westerners are the ones that feel alien Though not as much as the aliens themselves, who are really weird.In the end, Kayapi brings ambition and corruption to the mythos language of the Xemahoa Does it matter In the end, the language brain boosting drugs of Sole create insanity It s claimed though Vidya seems sane to me, under the circumstances And while we are on the tide of glorious cynicism, in the end, the vastly superior technology of the aliens is defeated by the mendacity of the humans.But the great thing about this novel is it s scale not in breadth, like a space opera but in depth, in the ultimate questions the novel seriously deals with The cynicism doesn t matter on the depth this novel is dealing with So what if mankind steals to the key to FTL travel So what if we colonise the Universe Will we simply end up on a mystical holy quest like the aliens As Ludwig W pointed out, When all the facts of the Universe are known, there is still the mystical A book for re reading


  8. Steve Joyce Steve Joyce says:

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers To view it, click here Hit some moments of real interest when the aliens arrive on Earth hey, what self respecting science fiction story couldn t say the same Said aliens by the way are prototypical Ferengi I.e they live to trade.But the whole things goes into the meh category with plot points and dialogue like this We buy a stinking little peace by sacrificing the stars, when we could have bought the stars with half a dozen brains It s so STUPID. Stupid Yes it is Quite often And yes, human brains are the c Hit some moments of real interest when the aliens arrive on Earth hey, what self respecting science fiction story couldn t say the same Said aliens by the way are prototypical Ferengi I.e they live to trade.But the whole things goes into the meh category with plot points and dialogue like this We buy a stinking little peace by sacrificing the stars, when we could have bought the stars with half a dozen brains It s so STUPID. Stupid Yes it is Quite often And yes, human brains are the currency here But the most confounding thing to me is that, apparently, The Embedding was considered in several award discussions back in the mid 1970s I found it to be potboiler material


  9. Ubik Ubik says:

    WellI just read itand my initial review is thus I think that it started out great, but it went in too many directions at once and never really developed ay of them all that well Im left assuming a lot of things, filling in the gaps, and things were sort of rushed at the end I wanted there to beabout language examples,explanations, outcomes, etc I also think that the characters could have been drawn better as well I never really got to know any of them That all said, it k WellI just read itand my initial review is thus I think that it started out great, but it went in too many directions at once and never really developed ay of them all that well Im left assuming a lot of things, filling in the gaps, and things were sort of rushed at the end I wanted there to beabout language examples,explanations, outcomes, etc I also think that the characters could have been drawn better as well I never really got to know any of them That all said, it kept my attention til the end which is always good and maybe someday Ill read it again


  10. Brant Brant says:

    This book had some interesting moments, but I think Watson s arrangement of the story ruined it in the long run The first half of the book is a bunch of linguistic mumbo jumboyou re forced to read ahead without any hints as to what the true story is Then there s an abrupt transition, followed by an OK ending Too many weird political things were going on, too Didn t work for me.


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