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Nickel and Dimed On Not Getting By in America [Read] ➲ Nickel and Dimed On Not Getting By in America Author Barbara Ehrenreich – Natus-physiotherapy.co.uk Reveals low wage America in all its tenacity anxiety and surprising generosity a land of Big Boxes fast food and a thousand desperate stratagems for survivalMillions of Americans work full time year r Reveals low wage Dimed On Epub Ý America in all its tenacity anxiety and surprising generosity a land of Big Boxes fast food and a thousand desperate stratagems for survivalMillions of Americans work full time year round for poverty level wages In Barbara Ehrenreich decided to join them She was inspired in part by the rhetoric surrounding welfare reform which promised that any job euals a better life But how can Nickel and PDF or anyone survive let alone prosper on an hour To find out Ehrenreich moved from Florida to Maine to Minnesota taking the cheapest lodgings available and accepting work as a waitress hotel maid house cleaner nursing home aide and Wal Mart salesperson She soon discovered that even the lowliest occupations reuire exhausting mental and physical efforts And one job and Dimed On Not Getting ePUB í is not enough; you need at least two if and Dimed On ePUB ¹ you intend to live indoorsNickel and Dimed reveals low wage America in all its tenacity anxiety and surprising generosity a land of Big Boxes fast food and a thousand desperate stratagems for survival Instantly acclaimed for its insight humor and passion this book is changing the way America perceives its working poor.


10 thoughts on “Nickel and Dimed On Not Getting By in America

  1. Carrie Carrie says:

    Dear Barbara Ehrenreich How do I resent thee? Let me count the ways1 You are a wealthy highly educated person who went on a half assed anthropological slumming vacation2 When said vacation was over you told your coworkers Surprise I'm not a poor person after all I'm going back now to my comfortable lifeand then you were surprised that those coworkers were mostly worried about the fact that they'd have to work the next shift with one less person3 You also were surprised that the aforementioned coworkers were neither impressed nor appreciative that you turned out to be a wealthy highly educated person writing a book about how hard it is to be a poor person 4 You were slightly offended that nobody saw through your waitress costume; you assumed that smart people are visually recognizable and it didn't seem to occur to you that real poor people might also be smart and educated5 The experiences you had while pretending to be a poor person may have instilled in you some amount of sympathy for poor people but you will never really know what it's actually like to be poor It was certainly nice enough of you to decide that you shouldn't judge a class of people until you'd walked a mile in their shoesbut you only managed to walk about three paces before your feet hurt and you decided you had seen enough A real poor person does not have a couple grand to start with or to stay afloat between jobs after finding his or her working conditions intolerable and suddenly uitting Nor does a real poor person when he or she develops some nasty rash from said intolerable working conditions have a private doctor who will phone in a prescription for soothing ointment Since a poor person does not have access to said doctor he or she has to just suck it up and go to work itchyI'm glad that this book might bring some much needed insight to middle and upper class people to whom it had never before occurred that it's actually really shitty to make minimum wage that people working shitty service jobs have bad attitudes for very good reasons that a person can work very hard and still be very poor and that there are myriad external obstacles that keep poor people from pulling themselves up by their proverbial bootstrapsWhat I am NOT glad about is that this could have been an excellent enlightening book about the less abstract aspects of our country's economic structurebut it was not Instead it was just a nauseatingly narcissistic exploration of the author's personality What many people seem not to understand is among other things that there is not only one kind of poor person or only one kind of working class person that poverty is not just a condition but a cycle and that contemporary poverty is not some ahistorical thing that just recently appeared when people started having poor money management skills and learned how to make crack Contemporary poverty is a result of Capitalism but one doesn't have to be a commie liberal to know thatSure there are many poor people who are crack addicts There are also many many rich people who are coke addicts I'm sure that if poor people could afford real cocaine they would buy that instead of crack but alas good cocaine is too expensive for poor drug addicts who make bad decisions People who are not poor make many of the same decisions that poor people do like acuiring a drug habit or having children or uitting a job One big difference is that people with enough money can afford to make bad decisions Another big difference is that your life feels a hell of a lot different when you don't have an easy out Maybe working as a waitress is kind of fun and interesting and not too stressful if you know you'll only be doing it until you get bored It's another thing entirely when your only other real long term option seems to be some other kind of awful service job and when you know that this is your life not a break from your real job and real life When you feel tired and desperate and angry and resigned all the time when every day you perform the emotional and physical labor of serving people who treat you like shit and pay you practically nothing how are you supposed to gather enough energy and hope to seek out a better life? You probably can't Instead you probably are going to buy some beer or weed and enjoy the few moments of your life that you can Maybe that's a bad decisionor maybe it's just a survival strategy


  2. Missy Missy says:

    warning a nerve has been touchedI have experience working with and researching programs that aid the poor and working poor I hated this book The only role it could play is as a weak talking piece for starting up serious discussion about the struggles and needs of the poorBarbara Ehrenreich may have stepped outside her comfort zone and into the world of the working poor but she did it with an educated background with money just in case with a pompous attitude and with the reuirement of a car at all timesShe also did it without many barriers that are very real to the working poor a child or children childcare costs low I or other learning disabilities an alcohol or drug addiction an abusive partner lack of transportation English as a second language bad credit felony convictions health disparities no high school diploma or GED experience as an orphan or in the foster care system homelessness no positive support system like her husband and editor depression PTSD schizophremia or other mental illness lack of drive or self worth hopelessness angst for the system lack of basic computer skills lack of interpersonal skills lack of personal hygiene or simple lack of clean clothingI live in Minneapolis where she lived when the experiment ended In the book she says she was struggling to find housing but she was postive that she would find it Fantastic I hope the housing she would of found had heat paid because heating costs will break even a middle class budget when the weather drops well below zero


  3. Cait Cait says:

    The two sentence summary of this book is PhD and respected writer decides to find out how the other two thirds live To this end she goes undercover as an unskilled laborer at three minimum wage jobs waitress Wal mart employee and Merry Maid each in a different city each for one monthThings I likedThe premise Things I hated1 Her shocked tone of discovery Newsflash Living on minimum wage is hardnigh on impossible Educated people have it pretty easy comparatively Entry level minimum wage work is kind of demeaning2 Her colonial anthropologist among the natives style that came across to me as super patronizing Don't these people understand that easy office jobs are just on the other side of a college degree? Don't they understand history enough to fight for unions?3 Her total shock that no one found her out as an educated person Working in a diner in the next town over she was never recognized Shock4 This mostly just lost her style points but she made a point to always have a working car it wasn't HER car but she rented a working car in every city she went to and had a thousand two thousand? dollars of start up capital to pay first and last months rent and eat while waiting for a job I think her cover story which again she was hurt when no one asked forcared about was that she was a newly divorced former stay at home wife on her own for the first time so I guess it's conceivable she would have had a little cushion but I would have found it much interesting if she'd actually committed to the premise a little Especially because she was there such a short time I know that working minimum wage jobs isn't fun but couldn't you commit to than a month? What do you find out in a month?5 This is really the one that gets me at the end of her time with the Merry Maids she comes out to her co workers telling them that really she's a PhD And writing a book The main response is So you won't be here to cover your shift tomorrow Once again she is shocked and hurt But man if there was ever a teaching moment she's been working with these women at back breaking soul sucking work for no pay and she's surprised that they're worried about how they're going to get though the next day? AGHAnd also WTF was she spending money on? I'm also a single healthy person with no debt or dependents and a working car and I spend less than a thousand dollars a month sustaining my life style I don't think I live THAT cheaplyIt just seemed like she was writing from this privileged bubble of white upper crust academia that I didn't know existed She was presenting as astonishing findings what I assume to be facts of life for a majority of peopleSo That is why I didn't like this book My mom on the other hand who has actually worked as a waitress to support herself loved it


  4. Laurie Anderson Laurie Anderson says:

    This book seriously pissed me off Normally I don't write reviews for books that I loathe but I'm making an exception for this one It has enjoyed tremendous popularity and thus has misinformed a whole lot of peopleIn the late 1990s the author I've enjoyed some of her other books decided to explore the challenges of low wage American workers by pretending to live and work like one of them in three areas of the country She gave herself a small amount of cash at the start of each journey as well as a car Her own car in the first city a Rent A Wreck in the other two She decided that if she ran out of money couldn't pay for shelter she would declare the experiment a failure and go home rather than try to live and work as a homeless person as so many are forced to do She always had access to health care and used it once when plagued by a maddening rash She found jobs as a waitress house cleaner nursing home aide Wal Mart employee and hotel maid found an efficiency apartment or other place to live and set about trying to make a livingIn other words she went slumming wrote a shallow book about it and made the bestseller listI think this book is voyeuristic poverty pornIt's also an insult to the millions of people she thought she was trying to portray with compassion and understanding And while many readers and reviews found the book to be an eye opening experience full of riveting grit Newsweek I feel she failed those readers as well as the people she was working with She barely scratched the surface of the lives of the poorFirst of all she should have stayed in one place and dug deeply instead of skimming along the surface for a few weeks and then moving on If she had done that she would have had a much better opportunity to get to know the people she was writing about People struggling in poverty are part of a community Understanding the strengths and challenges of that community is critical to understanding their world Getting to know people enough to with their permission explore the generational cycles of poverty would have reuired time and commitment from her too It would made for a truly groundbreaking book instead of an over padded magazine assignmentSecond she should have risen to the challenge to not have a car That is an incredible rare luxury for people earning minimum wage and it distorted her experiment Third she should have sucked it up and gone to the emergency room with that rash if it was so bad Instead she took advantage of her privilege and missed the opportunity to explore in depth how health issues and lack of insurance not to mention malnutrition help trap people in povertyAnd she never examined the challenges faced by families trying to get their kids educated in school systems that are disgracefully underfunded by property taxes and have been abandoned by politiciansThere's of course but I've got to get my blood pressure down or I'll never go to sleep Thanks for reading through this rantPS For the record I spent several large hunks of my life living in poor rural areas saw my parents go hungry to feed us suffered through having electricity heat and phone service shut off and experienced years of housing uncertainty when I was a kid I have close relatives who still live in the world this books claims to portray That's probably where my rage comes from


  5. Nandi Crawford Nandi Crawford says:

    I'm going to step on some toes here and I apologize if I do I AM one of the working poor that she talks about here and I DO believe in pulling myself up and making a better life for myself But what I want to know is this Unless you have been where I am how can you comment? How can you also call her a bleeding heart? Is this a country for the haves only? And the have nots just have not? uhh uhh I just don't understand We got an election coming up and some folks are fussing about this country even entertaining about health care for EVERY American So let me ask again this country is not for the free and brave but for those who just have it? Personally I found the book factual to a point On what I make unless the housing is subsidized I cannot live there plain and simple does that make me proud to say? no just realistic You cannot make a living pay bills and rent and eat on less than 1500 a month much less 1000 unless you really got a little someone to help you here Her staying in a place didn't seem that realistic to me although she did make some allowances but then she had to because after all you just cannot do it on a minimum wage salary unless you have a roomie or man or both I have read in Donald Trump and Robert Kiyoski's book that the middle class in this country is shrinking and that we as a people should either stay poor and that is food for serious thoughtFOOTNOTEI thank each of you whether you were with me or not in this review that is ok I never got this MUCH reviews on a book that is interesting to say the least I am still getting by in this country but Lord knows I am working hard to get away from it thanks again


  6. Ted Ted says:

    Okay I suddenly got a Like on my non review of this book so I'm going to say a few words about it which I've thought off and on for a whileI've seen very put downish reviews here on GR about the book and so about the authorIt's held that Ehrenreich was a fake had no idea what the working poor face was just trying to make a buck off them the book totally discredited because she had money and could just walk away when she was finished or if she got in trouble yada yada This sort of misses the obvious that her audience was not the working poor She didn't write a book saying to them Hey look at me I took on your world and here I am fine again with royalties in my pocketUh her audience was people like me people like most of those walking the streets of Manhattan hurrying and scurrying about their frantic but pretty well rewarded lifeShe got to me that's for sure In some sense most people with any knowledge of the world and any empathy at all are not surprised at the hardships that Ehrenreich describes But until it gets shoved in your face that these people typically work two jobs that many or most of them have no love in their lives because they have no time for it that one sickness or one broken car can spell disaster which could lead to homelessness you JUST DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND And once you do understand there is a brand new thing in your life which you never forget a knowledge not from personal experience but simply from a book written with feeling that YOU ARE LUCKY and there are way too many people out there THAT ARE NOT And that it might be nice if the society you lived in would try to do something about this for example a 15 minimum wageThanks for the Like Teresa Previous review Shakespeare The World As Stage Bill BrysonNext review Six Degrees a public service reviewOlder review Perfume The Story of a Murderer only two sentences but not a putdownPrevious library review The Millionaire Next Door Next library review Future Scenarios


  7. Renee Renee says:

    Here's a down and dirty assessment of Nickel and Dimed by Barbara EhrenreichFirst the positive Interesting premise writer decides to try to live on the wages that unskilled workers waitresses homehotel cleaners department store Walmart for instance clerks earn to see if she can do it and see if she learns anything in the process She exposes some very unethical even illegal employer practices such as withholding a worker’s first paycheck until the second pay period She notes some of the problems experienced by low wage workers that aren’t or may not be experienced at higher levels of employment eg lack of healthcare benefits being unable to live in an apartment because of cost prohibitive security deposits almost universal drug testing as prereuisite to employment etc Funny anecdotes about her experiences on “the other side” She appears to have done some outside research besides her own experiences and observationsThen the negative The reader recognizes immediately that this writer is a liberal specifically a bleeding heart socialist To those of us on the right this is a red flag we know what in the end she’ll advocate Besides the dreck that comes from that ideology is just annoying She makes comments about the nurturing aspects of smoking that I find vomit worthy Part of the whole getting out of poverty thing is making some good choices – continuing an expensive nicotine habit isn’t one of them Ms Ehrenreich breezes past this obvious expense and instead philosophizes about it Gaack Ditto for children I never buy the whole thing that poor people can’t read don’t have the brain power or self control to limit their reproduction Children are expensive and in having them in a marriage or not without thought to all the costs associated with merely keeping them alive not to mention THEIR future people are essentially dooming them to the same life and poverty that they currently experience I mean if you as a parent don’t have reliable healthcare it’s one thing but your kids will definitely need it – so why are you jeopardizing their health? Oh yeah – Medicaid She has a permissive attitude toward drug use – and even admits to “an indiscretion” of that sort during her experiment She buys and uses products that mask or flush evidence of the drug use That whole business is not going to lend credibility to your whole argument – whatever the argument is And drugs are an expense She always has a car “rent a wreck” in her words during her experiment Expense Now some of the locations she works do demand personal transportation but she purposely steers clear of big cities with public transportation Hmm She never tries to coordinateshare living arrangements and pool resources After all she DOES have her limits in this experiment The biggest problem with her experiment is that it is just an experiment – she can return to her comfy upper middle class life while demanding that the government do something about the minimum wage and povertyYeah I could go on but you get the general picture I would give this read a C readable but there are some reservations


  8. Carmen Carmen says:

    Ehrenreich a woman who has a PhD goes undercover working low paying jobs to see if one can earn a living with such work in AmericaOne can'tShe tries to make ends meet on the following jobs waitressing hotel housekeeping Maid Service nursing home attendant and Wal Mart employee often working two jobs at a timeThis shocking exposé reveals the horrific conditions that the working poor toil under Well at least they're shocking to someone who's never had to struggle to make ends meet and put food on the tableThere's always this niggling knowledge that Ehrenreich can pick up and leave at any time that this is still an experiment to her Of course people who work two minimum wage jobs and live out of their car do not have this luxury However I feel like Ehrenreich realizes this and is respectful of it not that she's looking down on the poor or slumming it There's no way for example to pretend to be a waitress the food either gets to the table or not People know me as a waitress a cleaning person a nursing home aide or a retail clerk not because I acted like one but because that's what I was at least for the time I was with themThis book could be brutal and very depressing Luckily for the reader Ehrenreich has a wonderful sense of humor that she employs to great effect and this takes some of the edge off of the horrible things she is relatingThere were some folks mainly managers and bosses who I wanted to punch in the face after reading this It's obscene what some corporations get away with and how greatly they take advantage of and exploit their workersOf course people in third world countries probably think the life Ehrenreich is describing is 'easy living' So it's all relative I guessEhrenreich freuently employed fantasies and daydreams to get her through the hell of her daily life during this time period For example when she was a waitress Sometimes I play with the fantasy that I am a princess who in penance for some tiny transgression has undertaken to feed each of her subjects by hand Or when she is a maid she thinks about some rich people who pay to go to monasteries and do labor to 'cleanse their soul'But she almost breaks when she sees people in real human suffering around her and realizes she is helpless to do anything to ease their suffering One of the most crushing scenes in the book is when a teammate maid that she works with breaks her ankle on the job and just keeps cleaning hobbling around the house and refusing to go to the hospital because she can't afford not to work It's heart rending and Ehrenreich goes through so many emotions unsure of what to do or even what she CAN doThere's a lot of this but that section was the hardest to read aboutEhrenreich is stunned when she realizes that people who work two jobs and have zero luxuries are still in poverty and can't even afford food and shelter I thought the book was amazing and highly recommend it for everybody who is an American or lives in America Or is interested in America Whether you are nodding your head because you know what it's like to live in this kind of hell or whether you like Ehrenreich are shocked and appalled by what is really going on with the poor in America this book is a great readThis is definitely a book I will buy I had post it notes on almost every single page and it was brimming with truth humor and emotionPS She only touches briefly on sexual harassment but let me add as a personal aside that there are thousands of women who just 'grin and bear it' and have no recourse but to tolerate this kind of crap on the job because they feel that they have no other choice Despite what the media would have you believe not many people care and certainly no one is going to rescue you or take you out of that situation It is SO damaging and humiliating and degrading and tons of women are just stuck with these kind of working conditionsPPS Again Ehrenreich only briefly touches on this but the food provided to the poor by food pantries is NOT fresh fruits and vegetables and healthy stuff It really grates my cheese when people start hating on fat people of any class but ESPECIALLY when they are poor people When my friend who is morbidly obese was raising her five kids as a single mom and living on welfare working two jobs and struggling every day to make ends meet went to the food pantry she was invariably presented with doughnuts bread cookies refried beans etc etc etc That's just what was availablewhat was donated and like Ehrenreich mentions many poor people do NOT have refrigerators or freezers to keep perishable food freshThe idea that my friend was a raising her 5 children as a single mother b working and c trying to educate herself in order to get a better job WHILE facing hatred prejudice and judgment for being obese just makes me BEYOND FURIOUS Really so so angryEhrenreich herself being a thin woman exhibits signs of fat hatred in this book ranting internally against corpulent Minnesotans and bemoaning fat people for being a burden on her and society I didn't like thisEhrenreich's thinness and how it helps her in this world is never mentioned but let me tell you I think it helped her A LOT and that things would have been vastly different if she were obese and looking for workperforming the same jobs It would have been evisceratingPPPS This is mentioned in passing a few times but it is SUPER IMPORTANT to remember that Ehrenreich is white and a native English speaker She would be living on a lower level of service hell if these things were not trueOf course if she HAD gone into all this stuff the book would be about 500 pages and not a uick occasionally funny read And it's important that this read comes off as uick and sometimes funny because this is an important message that needs to be received by as many Americans as possible And non Americans for that matterRE READ 01202016Everyone needs to read this So relevant so important


  9. else fine else fine says:

    When this book came out I was working in a busy bookstore in a fairly small town We had a stack of them at the counter and I read bits on my breaks While I was glad to see a popular book addressing the problems of the working poor I couldn't help but feel like she'd taken a vacation in my life and then made a bunch of money writing a book about it something she could only have achieved because she had already been in a position of privilege Your average house cleaner lacking an advanced degree and a publishing advance to live on while writing couldn't have written it And while it's unarguably a Good Thing to have anyone speak up for the voiceless masses did the low paid workers of America get anything tangible out of it? At any rate I was standing at the counter one night when a well dressed couple came in The woman pointed at the book with excitement Look honey that's the book she said The one where she took all those terrible jobs I heard she even worked as a WAITRESS Her tone expressed incredulous horror Then in unison they both froze and ever so slowly looked up at me I had on my best customer service poker face but they looked mortified and fled without buying anything I've had a lingering dislike for the book ever since


  10. Trevor Trevor says:

    Very uick explanation of the premise of this one a woman who is a writerjournalist is talking to her publisher about what she wants to write about next and says “someone ought to write a book about how hard it is to get by on the minimum wage in America” The publisher says “Okey dokey the book is set in the US so I’m trying to give you a feeling of verisimilitude you’ve hired” High fives all aroundBefore I started this book I really worried I mean I’m a bit of a worrier anyway – but mostly I worried that this would be the sort of book that my mother would hate The sort of book my mother hates is the sort of book that is written by someone she calls ‘middle class’ actually she would probably call them middle class twits and these people would then presume to be able to write about what my mum would call ‘the working class’These people these ‘middle class book writing types’ basically give my mother the shits It is nothing personal you understand – it is much intense than the merely personal So it was with gritted teeth that I started this oneI’m glad to report that not only did I really love this book I even think my mum would enjoy itFirst of all Barbara recognises that she is basically an impostor She recognises that her ‘experiment’ is really only going to be just that – I mean she is not going to literally endanger her life health or wellbeing just to make a point All the same – this is the sort of reality TV program that would never make it to television Particularly not in the USAThat fact is something that really struck me while reading this book – I mean even before she mentioned it herself Early in the book she compares herself to Upstairs Downstairs – that is a British television show about class distinctions I thought it was very interesting that she had to rely on a British show for a cultural reference to the ‘working class’ Later she points out that working class people may well exist in America – but they definitely don’t exist on American television I couldn’t help reflect that films like Dockers Billy Elliot particularly the themes around the strike – but also the themes of homosexuality Brassed Off or Kes simply could never be made in America Isn’t that incredibly sad? Now my dear friend Wendy told me once that in some states the minimum wage can be ‘discounted’ if people earn ‘tips’ It took me a while to believe I had understood what she was saying but if I’d read this book when I’d first intended to read it – when it first came out – I’d have known this already Tipping is something I find uite repulsive I hate everything about it – but then I don’t like watching dogs beg for food so I guess getting people to beg in much the same way is only going to make matters worseWhat do you think it is about America – I mean the land that is supposed to believe in euality of opportunity and democracy – that somehow encourages so many people to get off on making people beg and demean themselves? The discussion in this book about the Maids house cleaners is illustrative of this Companies even advertise that they force their workers to clean floors on their hands and knees I remember my mother talking about a great auntie of mine who worked for some rich bastard in Belfast He would expect her to scrub the street in front of his house on her hands and knees I believe she ended up not being able to walk Like I said hard to see how anyone could get off on this sort of humiliation I believe in the value of labour – that people are better off if they can work and if their work can be valued I believe we are social creatures and that we only feel true self worth if we believe we are making a real contribution to the society we live in So when we create an underclass of untouchables a caste that must work themselves into ill health and who never have any hope of being able to make ends meet or of getting out of poverty – then that is a choice that we make and one that says as much about us as people as it says about us as a societyThis book doesn’t offer simple solutions – in fact besides her suggesting that people join together in Trade Unions and find ways to improve their pay and conditions she makes virtually no suggestions at all Even this is not presented as a panacea If anything she worries that anger and resentment will build to the point where it will become unstoppable The pre employment tests given to people applying for jobs are particularly evil and in Australia would probably be illegal Now this is really saying something We have just had the most reprehensible and obnoxiously rightwing government imaginable but even they would have found reason to pause over the explicit anti trade union discrimination that seems a common place in these employment testsIt is hard to imagine the dice being brutally loaded against these peopleThe most memorable line in this book for me was the little girl who pointed to a black or Latino child I can’t remember which now and said “Look mommy a baby maid” Aren’t societies with caste systems so terribly interesting?This book constantly reminded me of Margaret Atwood – there was something about the voice something about the themes something about the tone In fact think of a non fiction book written by Atwood and this might well be the book you would end up withThis book isn’t nearly as bitter and twisted as this review might make it sound – I’m happy to admit that this is a subject which makes me uite bitter and twisted Parts of the book were very moving and other bits very funny She has a lovely way about her – I’m particularly fond of self deprecation I find it an incredibly attractive feature I also find intelligent women nearly completely irresistible That she is both of these had me falling helplessly and perhaps even a little pathetically in loveBarbara produces a list of reasons why the US character would allow this mistreatment of such a large section of its citizenry to exist All the usual suspects end up on the list – you know US obsession with ‘success’ and the tendency to blame ‘failure’ on the individual and so on But one of the things I kept thinking was the way American humour so often seems to come down to a degrading string of insults Humiliation and insults do seem to play an interesting role in the American psyche and this had me wondering if this is part of the reason why tipping is so embraced there while here in Australia we have no idea what to do in ‘tipping situations’Before I get flamed – Australia is just as bad one would only need to go to Bali for proof of that and we also treat single mothers Aboriginals selected migrants and an endless string of others with utter contempt and loathing I’m interested in why – in a country that believes it is self evident that all people are born eual – that such self evident ineuality of treatment could be so seemingly blindly toleratedBut then as Barbara points out – the fundamentalist Christians she has contact with also seem to exhibit the exact opposite of what one would take their core beliefs to be What would Jesus do? From the behaviour of his followers one can only suspect he would do the complete opposite of the stuff he said in his Sermon on the Mount This is a wonderfully thought provoking book and one that I enjoyed very much


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