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  1. Ahmad Sharabiani Ahmad Sharabiani says:

    Journey to Ixtlan The Teachings of Don Juan #3 Carlos CastanedaJourney to Ixtlan is the third book by Carlos Castaneda published as a work of non fiction by Simon Schuster in 1972 It is about an alleged apprenticeship to the Yaui shaman Don JuanThe title of this book is taken from an allegory that is recounted to Castaneda by his benefactor who is known to Carlos as Don Genaro Genaro Flores a close friend of his teacher don Juan MatusIxtlan turns out to be a metaphorical hometown to which the sorcerer or warrior or man of knowledge is drawn to return trying to get home After the work of stopping his changed perspective leaves him little in common with ordinary people who now seem no substantial to him than phantoms The point of the story is that a man of knowledge or sorcerer is a changed being or a Human closer to his true state of Being and for that reason he can never truly go home to his old lifestyle againعنوانها «سفر به ایختلان سفر به ناکجا آباد ـ درسهای دونخوان» کتاب باعنوان «سفر به دیگر سو» در ایران منتشر شده است۰ تاریخ نخستین خوانش یازدهم ماه ژوئن سال 1998میلادیعنوان سفر به دیگر سو درس های دون خوان؛ نویسنده کارلوس کاستاندا؛ برگردان دل آرا قهرمان پتگر؛ تهران، وزارت فرهنگ و آموزش عالی؛ 1360؛ در 323ص؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، فردوسی، شهر کتاب، 1363؛ در 460ص؛ چاپ پنجم 1366؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، فردوس، مجید، 1371؛ در 323ص؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، نشر میترا، 1373؛ در 323ص؛ شابک 9645996026؛ چاپ دهم 1375؛ دوازدهم 1380؛ موضوع عرفان سرخپوستی داروهای توهم زا؛ سرخپوستان یاکوئی، دین و اساطیر، سده 20معنوان تعلیمات دون خوان؛ عنوان دیگر سفر به ایختلان، مترجم حسین نیر؛ تهران، شباهنگ، 1365، در 293ص؛ چاپ دیگر تهران، فردوس، 1372؛ چاپ ششم 1374؛ عنوان سفر به ناشناخته، مترجم سوسن اردکانی؛ تهران، نگارستان کتاب، 1386؛ در 441ص؛ شابک 9789648155433؛ سرگذشت واقعی یک دانشجوی مردمشناسی است، که با یک جادوگر «مکزیکی» روبرو میشود؛ و کارهای عجیب و غریب جادوگر را در کتابش منتشر میکند، و بخاطر این کتاب، دکترای دانشگاه «لوس آنجلس» را هم میگیرد؛ «سفر به دیگر سو» سومین کتاب «کارلوس آراندا کاستاندا» در حکم پایان نامه ی مقطع دکترای مردمشناسی ایشان، به شمار میرود؛ پیش از آن در سال 1973میلادی، این جوان جستجوگر در پی جستجو برای تاثیر داروهای گیاهی، در نظام درمان سنتی سرخپوستان، به «سونورای مرکزی» میرود، و حاصل دیدار او با «دون خوان ماتوس» سرخپوست پیر و مرموز، نگارش کتابی است، که «آموزه های دون خوان» نام دارد؛ مجموعه ی این دوازده کتاب، به توالی تاریخ انتشار، به زبان اصلی و معادل فارسی به قرار زیر هستند؛1 The Teachings of Don Juan A Yaui Way of Knowledge 1968تعلیمات دون خوان طریقه ی معرفت نزد یاکی ها۰ 1365 انتشارات فردوس ـ ترجمه ی حسین نیر2 A Separate Reality Further Conversation with Don Juan 1971حقیقتی دیگر باز هم گفت و شنودی با دون خوان۰ 1364 انتشارات آگاه، ترجمه ی ابراهیم مکلا۰3 Journey to xtlan Lessons of Don Juan 1972سفر به ایختلان سفر به ناکجا آباد ـ درسهای دونخوان کتاب باعنوان «سفر به دیگر سو» در ایران منتشر شده است۰4 Tales of Power 1974افسانه های قدرت نخستین حلقه ی قدرت۰ 1363 انتشارات فردوس ـ ترجمه ی مهران کندری و مسعود کاظمی۰5 The Second Ring of Power 1975دومین حلقه ی قدرت ـ چاپ اول 1364 ترجمه ی مهران کندری و مسعود کاظمی6 The Eagle's Gift 1981هدیه ی عقاب ـ 1365 ترجمه ی مهران کندری و مسعود کاظمی7 The Fire from Within 1984آتش درون ـ 1368 ترجمه ی مهران کندری و مسعود کاظمی8 The Power of Silence Further Lessons of don Juan 1988قدرت سکوت ـ 1368 ترجمه ی مهران کندری 9 The Art of Dreaming 1994هنر خواب بینی ـ 1374 ترجمه ی فرزاد همدانی10 Magical Passes The Practical Wisdom of the Shamans of Ancient Mexicoعنوان حرکات جادویی خرد شمنان مکزیک کهن؛ کارلوس کاستاندا؛ برگردان مهران کندری؛ تهران، نشر میترا، 1377، در 330 ص، مصور، شابک ایکس 964599831؛ 11 The Wheel of Time The Shamans of Mexico Their Thoughts About Life Death the Universe The Teachings of Don Juan #11 Carlos Castanedaعنوان چرخ زمان شمنان مکزیک کهن ، افکار آنان در باره ی زندگی، زندگی مرگ و جهان؛ نویسنده کارلوس کاستاندا، برگردان مهدی کندری؛ تهران، میترا، 1377، در 278ص، شابک 9645998360؛ موضوع کارلوی کاستاندا از 1931م، تا 1998م، عرفان سرخپوستی، دین سرخپوستان یاکوئی، دین و اساطیر سده 20م12 The Active Side of Infinity 1998کرانه ی فعال بیکرانگی ـ 1379؛ ترجمه ی مهران کندریتاریخ بهنگام رسانی 16061399هجری خورشیدی؛ ا شربیانی


  2. Joseph Pfeffer Joseph Pfeffer says:

    Forty years on what are we to think of Carlos Castaneda? The Don Juan series of which Journey to Ixtlan is the central volume were initially acclaimed as a breakthrough in anthropological field research Castaneda as the researcher placed himself at the center of his book writing it from the point of view of his own reactions rather than laying out an ethnography Journey to Ixtlan became his UCLA doctoral dissertation and was the most noted book of the series because in it Carlos turns away from psychedelic plants and follows Don Juan as his apprentice He plays the role of the naive sometimes dense and blundering student which makes the book seem artless and laces it with subtle humor By the end the apprentice begins to get an idea of what don Juan means by power and how one can become a warrior in the Yaui sense The book takes an almost hypnotic hold on the reader just as don Juan does on Carlos Carlos cannot break away from don Juan no matter how irrational even crazy he seems and neither can we As the book progresses we become changed in much the way Carlos does It's almost impossible not to be infused with his sense of awe and wonder at what don Juan is teaching him and the sorcerer he is changing into Journey to Ixtlan feels so real and we get so involved with Carlos' struggle to learn a separate reality that we become in some sense believers in his alternative universe We become part of it The don Juan books were runaway best sellers in the 70's They were new wave new age anthropology and an often dry academic discipline was given new life by this careful almost childlike transcription of field notes The only problem with all this is that the books turned out to be fraudulent Don Juan was either made up by Castaneda or he was based on a real person whom Castaneda used as a springboard for fictional tales Either way this was not anthropology It was the fictional journey of a sorcerer's apprentice As Castaneda wrote books they became fantastic until even his most ardent supporters had to agree he'd left the world of anthropology for some sort of science fiction or fantasy In his later years Carlos Castaneda became the leader of his own cult something of a Jim Jones figure a man who apparently induced several women to kill themselves just after Carlos himself died So Castaneda and don Juan were discredited and the man who had sold a total of something like 28 million books faded away He is not much read any though all his books remain in print Yet he is scorned by the very academics who once lionized him as revitalizing their professionIt's hard to set all this aside while reading Journey to Ixtlan Yet the book's faux naif style succeeds in making it just as real as it was before Castaneda's trickery was discovered In a sense Castaneda is a throwback to the 18'th century when there was a convention of presenting fiction as though it were factual travel writing; think of Swift and Defoe Castaneda's constant interaction with don Juan along with his fretting about how this could not be real has the effect of making it seem real even when one knows it is not It is as real as the greatest fiction and it doesn't lose its hold on the reader even when you know he made most of it up by piecing together all kinds of occult texts in the UCLA library But it differs from most occult masterpieces in that Castaneda allows the reader to feel the process of initiation and the doubts and anxieties it generates in a moment by moment way You feel you don't need to attach yourself to a guru because Carlos does it for you Whatever genre Journey to Ixtlan fits into or if it fits into none at all it's a life changing read Now that all the controversy is over and the people who pursue that sort of thing have gone on to other interests it's possible to sit back and read the don Juan books purely for the enjoyment of their ideas their unexpected lyricism their emotional wallop Taken just as it is Journey to Ixtlan is a read of many rewards


  3. Lauren Lauren says:

    This is the first in a series of books which Castaneda wrote after he realized that his prior emphasis on psychotropic drugs was a misleading and erroneous means of conveying the lessons he gained from his apprenticeship with don JuanI began reading with few expectations and progressed with delight at how engrossed I became I felt and absorbed don Juan's teachings in a very heavy way I also found myself laughing out loud at various times throughout this book This for me is always a good signThere are many spiritual guide type of books that just don't do it for me The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle is a recent example It seems to me that all the ideas in that book have been articulated a million times before although in individualized artistic and passionate language Don Juan encapsulates the entire message of Tolle's book in two sentences because the only thing that is real is the being in you that is going to die To arrive at that being is the not doing of the self The problem with books such as Tolle's is that they reuire you to feel without inducing that feeling within you and that is exactly what Journey to Ixtlan succeeds in doingThis book changed my life and I look forward to reading the rest that follow


  4. Erik Graff Erik Graff says:

    This is the third volume of the trilogy including The Teachings of Don Juan and A Separate Reality I read all three one after the other while working at the Chicago Womens' Athletic Club during the summer between college and seminaryAlthough it appears to be the case that Castaneda the author fabricated some of the material appearing in his accounts including that of his doctoral dissertation which begins the series it also appears to be the case that he knows a good deal about altered states of consciousness While the books may misrepresent the Yaui Nation and so be bad anthropology they remain important and worth readingI've classed this volume as psychology one could also legitimately class them as religion or as fiction because so much of its content has to do with what we conventionally call altered states and relegate to psychologists What is interesting about Castaneda however is that for him it is not so much a drug disordered state of mind creating hallucinations as an entry into other worlds In other words the other worlds are real indeed they are truer in the sense of being meaningful than the uotidian routines of our normal livesPhenomenologically this is certainly the case to many whether they experience non ordinary realities through the use of drugs spiritual exercise or because such things happen to them either occasionally or regularly Years of campfire tales about extraordinary experiences have led me to begin to intentionally ask people about such things and I've found it remarkable how ordinary non ordinary states are This raises uestions about the typical approach of psychologists and philosophers to such matters and as regards the kind of society which would put its members in such a Procrustean bed that they'd be disposed to discount their lived experience in order to fit inI myself have experienced other worlds on a number of occasions Of course like everyone I inhabit them nightly and remember them under the rubric of dreaming Beyond that however I've had a couple of auditions hearing voices which weren't coming from anyone another in the room would have heard a rather unpleasant hallucinatory episode and at least two induced breakthroughs to domains radically different than this one I'm typing in all of which felt realer than real Beyond that the usual psychedelic experience and I've had scores at least suggests these other worlds worlds like those described by Castaneda although one is not entirely thrust into them and out of this one


  5. Juliana Juliana says:

    When one does not have a person history he explained nothing that one says can be taken for a lie Your trouble is that you have to explain everything to everybody compulsively and at the same time you want to keep the fresh newness of what you do Well since you can't be excited after explaining everything you have done you lie in order to keep goingFrom now on he said you must simply show people whatever you care to show them but without ever telling exactly how you've done it You see he went on we only have two alternatives we either take everything for sure and real or we don't If we follow the first we end up bored to death with ourselves and with the world If we follow the second and erase personal history we create a fog around us a very exciting and mysterious state in which nobody knows where the rabbit will pop out not even ourselves p34 35Death is the only wise adviser that we haveThe thing to do when you're impatient is to turn to your left and ask advice of your death p55He said the only thing that counted was action acting instead of talking p61When a man decides to do something he must go all the way but he must take responsibility for what he does No matter what he does he must first know why he is doing it and then must proceed with his actions without having doubts or remorse about them p61


  6. Blaine Blaine says:

    Ok I'm a boomer and I went through my own period of reading and living with Carlos Castaneda his teacher Don Juan and their world of indigenous Mexican shamanism This and its follow up book Tales of Power changed my life when I read them in my mid 20s they helped me forge a new identity as an adult as a warrior with an awareness of personal power and taught me lessons for a lifetime that are still with me If you are open to the teachings in these books they can truly be powerful and life changing and living far away from home as I was in my mid 20s in Finland I was captivated by Don Juan's teachings since as a youth I had traveled a lot with my family in Mexico and the American Southwest so I could easily visualize from Finland the landscapes and culture they were part of Anyway this book goes into my all time favorites list because of how its teachings so shaped who I became as an adult Powerful stuff


  7. Douglas Douglas says:

    I have read all of Castenedas books and this is the one you should start with The first three books tell the same story but Ixtlan gets it right and you miss little of importance from the first two books From Tales of Power on I give the books five stars To those who say it's fiction I say so what? The wisdom and knowledge of Don Juan is a priceless gift to all of us warriors on the path of knowledge and the books are page turners of the first order


  8. André André says:

    Well almost 10 years has it been now since I read this bookThere have been odd discussions about the truthfulness of of Castanedas books about Don Juan and the experiences Castaneda describesIn my opinion I don't care wether the stories are bogus or trueCastaneda describes his journey as an average guy through different spiritual rituals and experiences as he is taught by Don Juan about the shamanistic view of lifeI was 16 when I read the book and I loved the way Don Juan perceives the world as so very alive and kind of magicalThe book can be a good passageway to realize that the world is than our rationalistic eyes are used to conceiveOh yesclearly the book doesn't want to give any answers but rather it stimulates our imagination on how we perceive the worldEver wondered if the Wind itself could be an animated thing roaming around the worldinteracting and playing with those who percieve him?


  9. Aaron Dennis Aaron Dennis says:

    Many readers of Carlos Castaneda stop reading after A Yaui Way of Knowledge Some read on to A Separate Reality As I’ve stated before Castaneda admits later on that his compulsive obsession on non ordinary reality as produced by hallucinogenic plants was the wrong area to fixate and in Journey to Ixtlan he recapitulates on many of the notes previously discardedIt is in this wonderful story that Carlos introduces many concepts or rather elucidates on many concepts which Don Juan had introduced since their initial encounter; not doing stopping the world living as a warrior and dreamingWhat baffles me the most is that skeptics and I was one fixate on the impossibility of the story without so much as trying any of the prescribed techniuesI remember being a small child When I went to my grandparents’ house I used to spend countless hours just lying on the couch staring at the popcorn ceiling After a while the ceiling appeared to invert and the little pieces of stucco or whatever seemed to be holes rather than protuberances When I did that all my regular thoughts slowly subsided until I had none whatsoeverthat was my not doing and I think we forget those kinds of incidents Further we obsess over the information that we only use some 10% of our brains and ask ourselves what can we accomplish if we focus the totality of ourselves on only one thought? Wellthat is what stopping the world entails; shutting off our constant description of the world as reiterated by all those around us for just long enough to focus on nothing at allor to focus ourselves on just one thingYes I think the teachings are real No I don’t think they apply to all of us in particular We are all so very different and uniue that nothing is truly the same for any us If you have not read any of these books you may want to consider doing so If you have read them and think they are phony you may want to consider uieting your mind tonight when you lay down in bed and try to find your hands in your dreams You might be pleasantly surprised at what you can accomplishHere’s another on of those little exchanges that pleases me to no end“What’s the use of having beautifully polished crystals if you never find the spirit giver of power?” he said “On the other hand if you don’t have the crystals but do find the spirit you may put anything in his way to be touched You could put your dicks in the way if you can’t find anything else”The whole story is replete with power emotion revelations and touched lightly with such grace and humor that it is just so pleasant to read over and over again I also like Juan’s counterpart Genaro His antics and personality are so like myself that I cannot help but love the character In later books Juan describes that there are only so many kinds of men and that Genaro is a man of action This doesn’t mean much to those who have not read any of the books and it doesn’t mean much to those who only give the stories a cursory read but I promise you if you find your path with heart you will see plainly that it doesn’t matter how much of the story is real; the people’s names the area in uestion both of which Carlos admits were made up in an effort to follow Juan’s instructions the point is that many of us are plain dormant You can keep doing everything you do Maybe you’re happy maybe you’re not but why not try something new and see if the universe can’t show you something unknown?This is an amazing book and part of an amazing series Believe it or don't either way it is a fantastic read


  10. Sarah Sarah says:

    Hm This is a tough one for meA friend of mine someone I've always admired recently recommended this book along with several others I wrote them all down and immediately went to look for them at my local libraryUpon arriving I discovered that not only had I forgotten the list of books I had no idea how to navigate the nonfiction section For a minute or so I wandered aimlessly with nothing but the name Carlos in my head I started back towards the doorway but paused reluctant to leave I looked up at the shelf and there it was I told my friend and he said It's that kind of book You'll see And then he reminded me of the Dewey Decimal SystemYes it is that kind of book And I can see why my friend recommended it to me ButButNo disrespect to my friend or the will of the universe but I can't do hunterwarrior mysticism I just can't I also refuse to call this nonfictionSorry John


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Journey to Ixtlan The Lessons of Don Juan [KINDLE] ✾ Journey to Ixtlan The Lessons of Don Juan Author Carlos Castañeda – Natus-physiotherapy.co.uk The third book in a series recording Castaneda's initiation into the mysteries of sorcery under the guidance of the Yaui Indian don Juan It reveals how Castaneda learns the wisdom of the hunter he who The third book in a series recording Ixtlan The PDF Î Castaneda's initiation into the mysteries of sorcery under the guidance of the Yaui Indian don Juan It reveals how Castaneda learns the wisdom of the hunter he who is without routines free fluid unpredictable.